Empathy Series Episode 3 - Jodie Myintoo

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Empathy Series Episode 3 - Jodie Myintoo

1 Hour 40 Minutes

Jodie Myintoo is a counsellor and author specialising in relationship breakdown, separation, family law, grief, and trauma and is a member of the Australian Counselling Association (ACA).

As Melbourne emerges from a dark hibernation of many months, it is vital we have conversations around mental health and what it means not just for the vulnerable, but for the millions of Victorians who have are now exiting what has become a globally unprecedented human experiment of isolation and community division under a quasi-police state.


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Business Innovation Series Episode 5 - Joel Kleber

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Business Innovation Series Episode 5 - Joel Kleber

1 Hour 30 Minutes

At the end of a long day, I don’t turn to Netflix to relax. I jump onto Youtube and there are only 2 things I watch: a psychology lecture by Jordan Peterson, or something from the Jim’s Group channel.

There’s something addictive for me watching people mow lawns or build fences on that channel. New media sources like that are taking over our lives and in this episode of the Business Innovation Series we are exploring ‘content creation’.


Why create content? How? Where should business start branding through content?

Joel Kleber is the Chief Digital Officer for the Jim’s Group and can be followed at:

Instagram – @joelkleber_
Twitter – @joelkleber_
Facebook – facebook.com/authenticcovospodcast
LinkedIN – www.linkedin.com/in/joelkleber/
Podcast – https://anchor.fm/joelkleber
YouTube Channel – http://bit.ly/joelkleber
Website – www.hendrixmedia.com.au

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Political Psychology Series Episode 5 - Gideon Rozner

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Political Psychology Series Episode 5 - Gideon Rozner

1 Hour 47 Minutes

Gideon Rozner is the Director of Policy at the Institute of Public Affairs, an Australian policy think tank that focuses on economic and political freedom. This was the longest and most fun interview I’ve done in all of 2020.


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Political Psychology Series Episode 4 - Richard Riordan MP

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Political Psychology Series Episode 4 - Richard Riordan MP

1 Hour 13 Minutes

Richard Riordan is a Liberal MP representing the regional electorate of Polwarth west of Melbourne. With a multi-generational history of business in Colac, Richard turned his hand to politics in 2015 and has been a straight-shooting pollie ever since.

He has some big ideas to explode growth and investment in regional Victoria but most importantly he is a breath of fresh air getting things done via ‘the bush telegraph’ while other politicians talk in circles as their bureaucracies grind slowly on.


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Political Psychology Series Episode 3 - Sanjeev Sabhlok

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Political Psychology Series Episode 3 - Sanjeev Sabhlok

1 Hour 31 Minutes

Sanjeev Sabhlok resigned in protest from the Victorian Department of Treasury and Finance. He has a long history of campaigning for freedom, the individual, happiness and rational thinking.

To know that such an intellect was working within our public service in Victoria is encouraging but also devastating that they lost that intellect.

In this interview we explore not just his thoughts on the illegality and immorality of the lockdowns around the world, but also how he came to his classically liberal philosophy and how that informs his crusade to maximise the happiness of people all over the world.


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Business Innovation Series Episode 4 - Nathan Jungwirt

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Business Innovation Series Episode 4 - Nathan Jungwirt

1 Hour 11 Minutes

If you’re old enough to remember the advent of computers – they used to be a specialised device sold in specialised stores for specialised purposes. Somewhere around the 1990s they became commoditised and now the choice of store is mainly determined by price.

Nathan Jungwirt has run a computer store for 6 years in a highly competitive and commoditised sector. Not only that, he has a keen interest in investing, e-commerce and entrepreneurialism.

If you are interested in e-commerce, small business, or investment – Nathan is an inspiring young Australian who is surprisingly well-read. If this is the standard of young Australians, we are in good hands!


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Empathy Series Episode 2 - Dr Catherine Fyans

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Empathy Series Episode 2 - Dr Catherine Fyans

1 Hour 24 Minutes

Dr Catherine Fyans is a practising G.P. of some 40 years in Melbourne. She was one of the most popular guests in the history of my other show ‘The People’s Project’ where she was able to demonstrate common sense positions on COVID-19, masks and government lockdowns.

Catherine seems to have a great deal of empathy and she agreed to an interview for our EMPATHY SERIES where we sought to explore all things COVID-19 as well as the psychological role that lockdowns (and emerging from them) play in all of our lives.



2:55 Human nature is innocently gullible
5:27 The unprecedented changes to humanity could be positive
7:45 Catherine wanted to run back to Ecuador
8:34 Stockholm Syndrome
10:50 The infantilisation of a population
10:40 Why do people applaud a paternalistic government?
13:32 Reverting to our limbic brain – how do we stay rational?
15:00 Relentless messages of fear
16:50 Breaking people’s minds through prolonged fear states
19:35 The danger of apathy
20:48 The perversion of government support
22:00 Liberty vs a Nanny State
24:29 Time for us to grow up?
25:44 Beach ‘protests’ in Melbourne
26:50 Remembering what freedom is without masks
28:25 Are masks effective?
32:25 The harms of masks
35:20 The masking of children
36:04 Was COVID-19 engineered in a laboratory?
38:24 The subconscious effect of masks
42:55 Children asking to wear masks
45:15 The tribalism of mask wearing
48:15 More pandemics to come
50:37 Face shields are useless
52:35 We are not talking about good health – only sickness
58:37 Calls for health leadership instead of sickness leadership
1:00:40 What is empathy? Sympathy? Pity? Compassion?
1:04:55 Enlightenment and the scientific method in medicine
1:06:40 The Eagle and the Condor Philosophy
1:10:27 The Problem – Reaction – Solution model
1:11:10 Empathy and Compassion is a strength
1:13:15 The dark night of the soul
1:17:25 The value of community
1:18:32 Dobbing in your neighbours
1:20:16 Predictions for the remainder of 2020

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Business Innovation Series Episode 3 - Angela Vithoulkas

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Business Innovation Series Episode 3 - Angela Vithoulkas

1 Hour 33 Minutes

When you think of the word ‘champion’, you probably think of a ‘winner’ -somebody who takes first place. But the true meaning of champion is more than winning a competition.

It’s a 13th Century concept for a person who fights on behalf of another. A champion advocates for something or someone, especially when that someone cannot do it themselves.

This is the noble goal of our political system but I’m sad to say that our parliaments are not necessarily filled with the people’s champions.
That’s why it’s so incredible to have found one in Angela Vithoulkas. It’s unlikely you’ve never heard about before because she is so noisy when it comes to small business being the engine room of our economy.

Angela is a sitting councillor for the City of Sydney, and is the founder and leader of the Small Business Political Party. She’s owned many small businesses, you’ve probably heard her on national television or radio, and she now brings all of that rich experience together into an excellent TV show called SMETV which you can see for free on Youtube. Despite all of this achievement, I think her most impressive feat is catching her first shoplifter at the age of 3.

In today’s conversation we’ll talk about how business can and will rise from the ashes of COVID-19, but what I really hope we discover is – why is Angela our champion? Was it always there? Or was it created by circumstance?


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Political Psychology Series Episode 2 - Jim Penman

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Political Psychology Series Episode 2 - Jim Penman

1 Hour 19 Minutes

If you grew up in suburban Australia, you would be familiar with the green and gold trailers regularly appearing on our streets to mow our lawns. Jim’s Mowing has since expanded and the Jim’s Group is now the largest franchise in Australia and New Zealand with some 4,000 franchise owners turning over more than $500m a year serving 35,000 customers a day!

But don’t let the blue-collar grass mowing success story fool you – Dr David Jim Penman, that’s right…Dr, is an avid student of history and how its cyclical nature is determined by biology, epigenetics and character amongst other things.

Buckle up for a wild ride as we explore a huge range of topics including how civilisations are built, how to reverse their decline with epigenetics, why he is fighting the Victorian lockdown laws, and how Jim’s franchises are truly a family.

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Business Innovation Series Episode 2 - Deputy Lord Mayor of Melbourne Arron Wood AM

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Business Innovation Series Episode 2 - Deputy Lord Mayor Arron Wood

51 Minutes

Arron Wood is not your typical politician. In fact, I’m not sure he’s a politician at all! Granted – he does hold the office of Deputy Lord Mayor for the City of Melbourne, and he is campaigning in next month’s council elections to become the Lord Mayor. But when I came across Arron on social media, it wasn’t via a political ad or a sponsored post. I simply noticed someone who was posting sympathetic, thoughtful, and engaging content, and perhaps most tellingly a majority of that interaction was in replies and comments to other people.

Political messaging is often unidirectional, and getting community leaders to listen and engage in a genuine way is rare but I’m convinced it’s the key to electoral success. It would be no surprise to me then should I be addressing Arron as Mr Mayor at the end of next month. And it’s my pleasure to welcome him to our Series on Business Innovation which explores how business can and will rise from the ashes of COVID-19, and the unprecedented lockdowns around the world.


Show Notes:

1:14 – A non-politician politician

3:20 – Why enter politics?

5:00 – Who would Arron vote for in a federal or state election?

7:04 – Arron’s long walk to political office

9:40 – Business destruction under government lockdowns

11:20 – Extending 5km radius limit to 10km

13:36 – A better way out of lockdown

15:50 – 15% of Melbourne hospitality businesses are already gone

17:00 – Melbourne is a conversation town

18:25 – The fabric and heart of Melbourne

19:50 – Arron’s condemnation of the lockdown

22:30 – The internal machinations of political parties

23:25 – Arron lays out an alternative plan for Melbourne

25:25 – Switching from handouts to cutting red tape

26:20 – We should expect COVID cases to go up when lockdown ends

28:38 – The shift in tone around lockdowns

30:18 – Arron predicts Melbourne’s recovery timeline

33:35 – Resurrecting Melbourne without the government

35:50 – Make your bed!

36:55 – Environmentalist or businessman?

39:30 – A plan to export hydrogen worldwide

41:10 – What does Arron drive?

43:30 – Sustainability is more than the environment

44:20 – Sustainability in regional Australia

47:00 – Ambitions for state parliament and the original intent of parliament

Follow Arron:
https://www.facebook.com/ArronWoodMelbourne

https://www.linkedin.com/in/arronwood

https://twitter.com/ArronWood

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