Dr Tien Kieu was a Labor MP in the Daniel Andrews government 2018-2022. During that time he continued to publish academic papers as a theoretical physicist.

His story today comes in three parts: refugees, politics and science. For conversation on the politics and ethics of Covid-l9 lockdowns and government support of minorities in general and communism, skip to 20min 42sec. For our discussion on quantum mechanics and theoretical physics skip to 57min 40sec.