Interviews

Aidan McLindon was an elected Liberal politician in Queensland before establishing The Queensland Party, merging with Katter’s Australian Party. He now lives in Victoria and is running for the Freedom Party of Victoria in the seat of Mulgrave against Premier Daniel Andrews.

We discussed:

• Why Aidan has been involved in so many different political parties in Australia
• ‘Jobs, Homes, Families’
• Reclaiming the word ‘freedom’
• Do Australians value freedom?
• The lure of the ‘nanny state’ in Australia
• Who should own Australia’s power and energy production assets?
• Queensland toll roads that milk the public purse
• Who are the candidates of the Freedom Party of Victoria?
• Why the Liberal Demorats (LDP) don’t understand ‘freedom’
• Menzies 2.0
• Parties by Pauline Hanson, Bob Katter, Clive Palmer ‘don’t have longevity’
• The media has trashed the word ‘freedom’
• Parties are capitalising on the word ‘freedom’
• Glen Druery ‘the preference whisperer’
• Refunding all GST for all small business 2023-2024
• Outlawing gender transitions
• Gender dysphoria a symptom of other issues?
• Limiting spending through legislation and copying corporate oversight
• Tax cuts to landlords who keep rents low
• $330 to change a light bulb
• Breaking up the Coles/Woolworths duopoly
• Schools only give students 60min per day of solid education
• Prioritising life skills in school curriculums
• Daniel Andrews’ fake religious signaling
• Hypocrisy of Woke
• Nuclear energy policy
• Why Morgan C Jonas performed poorly in the federal election
• Australians do want freedom but haven’t been offered it
• Who makes up the supporters of the Freedom Party?
• Labor voters turning to the Freedom Party
• Parties knifing themselves internally
• Chances of defeating Premier Daniel Andrews in Mulgrave
• Preferences and deals across Victoria
• Are deals with the devil worth making?
• Aidan McLindon’s attraction to politics
• We need to stop focusing on ourselves and the ‘stuff’ we acquire

AIDAN MCLINDON
https://freedomparty.net.au
https://www.facebook.com/aidanpmclindon
https://twitter.com/aidanpmclindon

Ben Mol is a Professor of Obstetrics and Gynaecology at Monash Health, Melbourne. He focuses deeply on medical interventions: what are they, why are they deployed, are they overused?

He leads the Evidenced based Women’s Health Care Research Group who investigate whether medical interventions around the world are conducted with evidence, are beneficial to patients, and whether they cause harm.

In the course of his research, Ben has uncovered startling evidence such as 30% of peer-reviewed and published randomly controlled trials being completely fabricated.

In this interview we explored the world’s largest health intervention to date: government and public health responses to Covid-19. The professor has been vocal about the injustice and illogic of vaccine mandates, punitive measures against Queensland’s unvaccinated teachers, the deportation of Novak Djokovic from Australia, malfeasance in academic research, and lockdowns as ‘one of the greatest peacetime policy failures in modern history’.

• An outline of our discussion:
• What are medical interventions?
• Brave New World – are we addicted to medical interventions?
• The incentives driving medical interventions
• Is Panadol a placebo?
• The natural rate of caesarean deliveries vs the actual rate
• Incentives to conduct caesarean sections
• Charging Australians for IVF and elective caesareans
• Discrimination in reproductive healthcare
• Fewer costs with no lockdowns – Sweden vs Denmark
• Threshold for all new drugs: $50k per life year saved
• Covid-19 vaccine cost benefit analysis
• Medical interventions should be measured is saved/lost life years, not purely deaths
• Traffic accident deaths are more tragic than elderly deaths
• Young people paid a higher price than old people during lockdowns
• We ‘went to war’ over Covid-19
• Was an elimination strategy wise in Australia?
• ‘Flattening the curve’
• Should the government also go to war with cancer? Obesity? Smoking? Sugar?
• The lack of reason in vaccine mandates
• Extending the logic to banning Coca Cola
• The lunacy of social distancing at McDonalds
• C-19 vaccine uptake rates without mandates
• Mandating healthy lifestyles
• The medical principle of ‘informed consent’
• Should we ‘save the health system’ or should it save us?
• Victorian ambulance and 000 systems overwhelmed
• Health system capacity crises before Covid-19
• Hospitals conduct too many health interventions
• Medical culture in the Netherlands: intervene less often!
• Interventionists see their own reality
• False research papers: fabricated data in peer reviewed journals
• Monash University detects 30% of randomly controlled trials are fake
• Ivermectin trials built on fake data
• The Socratic dialogue of medical debate but is it too complex for the public?
• Detecting false research papers
• People’s greatest needs: physical safety

PROFESSOR BEN MOHL
https://research.monash.edu/en/persons/ben-w-mol
https://twitter.com/bwmol

Zuby is an internationally recognised rap and hip hop artist who also achieved fame as the champion British female deadlift record holder (238kg).

Designed to raise awareness of the absurdity of biological men competing against biological women in sport, the stunt eclipsed his music success and he was thrust into the culture wars where he has been offering previously common – but now exceedingly rare – takes on society.

He continues to self publish his music and books, as well as tour internationally as a keynote speaker on a variety of his interests including music, cryptocurrency, culture, and self-improvement.

He kindly agreed to an extended interview with Discernable in the suburbs of Melbourne where we could explore his views in a specifically Australian context.

We discussed:

• Zuby’s brush with transgenderism
• Wokeism as a set of ‘goofy’ ideas that fail empirically
• The valid criticisms that created wokeism
• The world does not manifest ‘equality’
• Gender quotas for no purpose
• Structural and systemic sexism and the lack of female representation
• What is behind the woke mentality? Pathology? Loneliness? Valid criticisms?
• Objective and subjective truth
• The solution to wokeism
• Internal vs external locus of control the main indicator
• Defining problems properly
• The artform of rap music. Is it rhythmic poetry?
• How to understand rap and hip hop
• Deconstructing rap lyrics
• Viewing Australia’s craziness from overseas
• The politicisation of health
• The lens of power and money explains everything in every country
• Why Zuby permanently left the UK
• Something broke permanently during the pandemic
• No apologies have been issued
• The moral bankruptcy of pandemic measures
• What Zuby thinks of lockdowns
• Why Zuby came to Australia
• What Zuby thinks of the Premier of Victoria Daniel Andrews
• What Zuby found when he arrived in Australia
• How Australia differs from other countries
• Australian bureaucracy culture
• Zuby’s life goals
• Australia ‘The Lucky Country’
• Zuby’s one wish – The Great Awakening

ZUBY
https://teamzuby.com
https://candycalamity.com
https://twitter.com/zubymusic
https://instagram.com/zubymusic
https://youtube.com/zubymusic
https://facebook.com/zubymusic

Stress, anxiety and wellness expert Sam Eddy returns to the studio to talk LGBTQ Pride Month, identity making and how humans all across the ideological spectrum mistakenly live out of ego.

We discussed:

• Gay Pride
• Adopting labels for identity and living out of ego
• Finding peace to overcome anxiety
• What is peace? what is it based on?
• Are there foundations to peace and morality?
• The childhood programming that both hurts and helps us
• Sam comes out as gay but refuses to become an LGBTQ activist
• How identity politics invests in your ego
• ‘What is a woman?’
• ‘The Middle Way’ and how to avoid extremes
• The temptation to live in ego
• Should we celebrate pride?
• Crisis precipitates change, so pain is often needed
• The logical conclusion of identity battles
• Politicians and their egos
• Comparing Australian politician egos
• An ego-fuelled society
• Comparing countries around the world
• The paradox of Chinese happiness

SAM EDDY
https://www.openchange.com.au
https://www.facebook.com/openchangeau
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0pY4rJH-WVgGXhWa7Sjmng
https://www.instagram.com/openchangeau

Kris Borer is the author of ‘The Ethics of Anarcho Capitalism’ and I invited him on the show for an extended exploration of what libertarianism, capitalism, libertarianism etc actually is and whether Australians should take notice or simply go on living ignorant of these ideologies.

Is taxation theft? Are government subsidies unethical? Is it ok to do some harm to avoid even greater harm?

We discussed anarchism, capitalism, libertarianism, ethics, societal conflicts, the robot apocalypse, cronyism, morality and values.

KRIS BORER
https://krisborer.com
https://www.amazon.com/Ethics-Anarcho-Capitalism-Kristopher-Borer/dp/195197400X
https://twitter.com/krisborer

Father of Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, John Shipton, and whistle-blower David McBride join Discernable for an exclusive deep dive into government secrets.

Do we still believe that Western governments are more noble than Chinese, Russian and other world governments? Who exactly are ‘the good guys’ and ‘the bad guys’ on the world stage? Are government secrets and warmongering the price to pay for our free democracies?

David McBride served in both the British and Australian armed forces and is currently facing jail for leaking classified information to the ABC and alleging war crimes by Australian soldiers in the Middle East.

John Shipton continues to fight for his son’s freedom, and notes massive cross-party support in parliaments around the world calling for his freedom.

In this joint interview we discussed:

• How governments are incentivised to start and prolong wars
• How governments use fear and anxiety to sell their policies
• The war crimes in the leaked ‘collateral damage’ video and other leaked cables
• War crimes committed by Australia and the USA targeting civilian water supplies and using depleted uranium rounds
• Allied air strikes designed to cover evidence of war crimes
• When media won’t report against government
• Why are the crimes Julian Assange revealed not being prosecuted?
• The duty to report a crime
• Why will Australia not defend an Australian citizen?
• All political parties are adopting a ‘free Assange platform’
• The cult of ‘Five Eyes’ controlled by the USA
• David McBride reveals war crime cover-ups
• Do Aussies care about principles or not?
• Refreshing and renewing parliaments with cross-party groups
• The future for Millennials and GenZ fighting for truth
• FriendlyJordies behind the scenes

AUSTRALIAN ASSANGE CAMPAIGN
https://www.assangecampaign.org.au
https://twitter.com/AssangeCampaign
https://www.facebook.com/AssangeCampaign
https://www.instagram.com/assangecampaign
https://writejulian.com

MELBOURNE ASSANGE EVENTS
https://www.facebook.com/melb4Assange
https://twitter.com/Melbourne4Wiki
https://www.instagram.com/melbourne4assange
https://ithaka.movie

DAVID MCBRIDE
https://davidmcbride.com.au
https://www.gofundme.com/f/50-years-in-jail-for-whistleblowing-on-the-adf
https://www.facebook.com/david.mcbride.522
https://twitter.com/MurdochCadell

Box Hill is the Chinese capital of Melbourne, much like Hurstville in Sydney. Traditionally a Liberal seat (1955-1982 and 1992-2018), it is tipped to return to the Liberals in the Nov 2022 election with Malaysian candidate Nicole Werner.

Daughter of working class migrants from Malaysia in 1987, Nicole is a lifelong local of Box Hill whose career has been managing charities in the not-for-profit sector (foodbanks).

We discussed:

• A working class migrant family arrives in Box Hill
• Point Cook Rd and why Labor won’t double it
• How SW-Sydney suburbs were treated differently during lockdown
• The ‘super station’ being built in Box Hill
• Mont Albert residents denied access to the secret Union Station plans
• Why media won’t accept a young, Asian female running for the Liberal Party
• Affirmative action and racism in Australia
• Is Daniel Andrews popular on the street?
• Monte Carlo Pizza in Noble Park
• Foodbanks overwhelmed in 2020
• How would the Liberals have done any better?
• Vulnerable Victorians should leave the state
• Media blackouts
• Equality of opportunity, outcome and effort
• Motivations to work for the community
• Where do values comes from?
• The foundation of faith
• Compromising values for the political party
• Friends outside of politics
• What Millennials are talking about
• Minority groups over represented in media
• The personality of Nicole Werner
• Great food in Melbourne’s eastern suburbs
• Crossfit and F45
• Participating in school sport

NICOLE WERNER
https://www.nicolewerner.com.au
https://www.facebook.com/NicoleWernerBoxHill

Robert Barwick is the Research Director of the Australian Citizens Party and has been revealing the influence of big banks at the core of our politics for decades.

In this interview we explored:

• How lobbyists control the direction of Australia’s politics
• How Australia’s cash ban was defeated
• Australia’s ‘bail in laws’ that steal the savings of Australians
• The immorality of Uber
• The kind of protest that works
• Banks have a goal of eliminating cash
• Australia won’t survive without cash
• The true extent of bank branch closures in Australia
• How ‘bail in’ laws work by shifting accountability from the banks to the customers
• Glass-Steagall laws and Obama’s fake regulation after the GFC
• The corporate assassination of AusPost’s CEO Christine Holgate
• The dysfunction of Australia Post
• The machinery of political parties
• Decentralised finance and cryptocurrency
• Are Australian house prices a giant bubble?
• How to keep banks accountable and fix the property market
• Choose your medicine: crash, hyperinflation or depression
• Are ‘renters’ still ‘losers’?

ROBERT BARWICK
https://twitter.com/RobbieBarwick
https://www.youtube.com/c/CitizensPartyAU

Norman Fenton is a professor of Risk Information Management at Queen Mary University of London and director of Agena – a company focused on uncertainty quantification, probabilistic models and smart data.

He has spoken out loudly and often against ‘statistical illusions’ that, though convincing, are in complete mathematical error.

The professor believes these statistical illusions have been used by governments to falsely justify many policies, and that even his fellow statisticians who see the error are too afraid to speak out.

Professor Fenton test the voracity of mortality statistics, vaccination statistics, infection/case statistics et al and in this interview he gives both the theory and calculations behind his claims that the world has been conned by bad statistical analysis.

PROFESSOR NORMAN FENTON
https://www.normanfenton.com
https://twitter.com/profnfenton

How Wikipedia Defames
https://www.normanfenton.com/post/how-wikipedia-defames-and-delegitimizes-anybody-raising-concerns-against-the-who-narrative-on-covid

FOI response re covid deaths:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/covid19deathsandautopsiesfeb2020todec2021

Prof. Fenton’s article on the BBC documentary “Unvaccinated”
https://www.normanfenton.com/post/a-critique-of-the-bbc2-documentary-unvaccinated

The survey carried out for the BBC for the above programme
https://www.icmunlimited.com/our-work/exploring-attitudes-towards-covid-19-vaccinations-for-stv

Modelling and results for the Bangladeshi mask study
https://www.normanfenton.com/post/the-bangladesh-mask-study-provides-no-evidence-that-masks-reduce-covid-19-infection
The full paper is here: http://dx.doi.org/10.13140/RG.2.2.26189.92649

Professor Mattias Desmet is the author of The Psychology of Totalitarianism – a book that describes a world in the grips of ‘mass formation’.
Under the correct conditions, the professor believes that a specific type of group formation can emerge, and has emerged in 2020. He cites historical examples where masses formed such as ‘concentration camps to deal with the Jews, crusades to deal with the Muslims and witch-hunts to deal with the witches’ but makes the distinction that in a technocratic era it ushers in totalitarianism.

Professor Desmet notes that totalitarianism, understood as a ‘diabolical pact between the elite and the masses’, is not the same as dictatorships where power is exercised in one direction. Totalitarianism always starts with an ‘obsession and illusionary idea that a new society should be created according to a certain pseudo-scientific theory. It will create a new technologically, scientifically based paradise’.

We covered:

• What is the difference between dictatorships and totalitarianism?
• Is Trump Derangement Syndrome, or Trump is Our Saviour sentiment, related to totalitarianism?
• Will there be future mass formations?
• Is the climate change movement a mass formation?
• A new, technocratic totalitarianism
• Real problems with climate
• Criticisms of mass formation theory
• Rational, mechanist materialism that creates a new ‘elite’
• The result of violent revolution
• Klaus Schwab, the W.E.F. and the W.H.O
• Destroying the elite will not work
• Proof that the madness exists
• It is never safer to remain silent
• Where should ethics come from?
• The problem of religions and dogmas
• How mass formations end
• Non-conformists will bring the solution
• The greatest risk of all: silence and violence
• How to survive the next mass formation
• Who influences Mattias Desmet?
• Mattias’ message to Australia

MATTIAS DESMET
https://biblio.ugent.be/person/801001743835
https://bookshop.org/books/the-psychology-of-totalitarianism/9781645021728
https://p-nt-www-amazon-com-kalias.amazon.com/Psychology-Totalitarianism-Mattias-Desmet/dp/1645021726
https://wordery.com/the-psychology-of-totalitarianism-mattias-desmet-9781645021728