Interviews

This is the story of John – a Queensland Health worker at Gold Coast Hospital (non-patient facing) who is facing dismissal for not taking a second dose of a Covid-19 vaccine, despite booking an appointment and trying to have it.

John was advised by multiple medical practitioners including a vaccine expert that he should definitely not take a second dose considering the severe adverse reaction he had after the first, which included paralysis.

He is now both unable to receive a second dose and unable to work at Gold Coast Hospital who are erroneously claiming, amongst other things, that he has not received a first dose.

John has multiple valid medical exemptions including from the Federal Government. As John waits in limbo, his job has already been advertised and has reportedly been filled internally on a permanent basis.

John is represented by Samir Banga from Banga legal who joined us to discuss both the case and the status of legal challenges to vaccine mandates in Australia more broadly.

Why do so many fail? Will they continue to fail? Are lawyers simply profiteering on the suffering of fired or injured workers?

BANGA LEGAL
https://www.bangalegal.com.au
https://www.instagram.com/samir.banga
https://twitter.com/samir_banga
https://www.facebook.com/bangalegal
https://www.linkedin.com/company/banga-legal

James Michael is an expert in the psychology of sales and is on a mission to debunk the myths surrounding the sales and recruitment industry.

The companies he founded in The Justified Talent Group are known for taking a scientific and data-driven approach in an industry often steered by legend, folklore and fallacy.

In this interview he shared insights into the true nature of sales, its role in society, various perceptions of salespeople, and how the landscape is changing to meet new needs in a new world.

James’s expertise sheds light on the importance of sales psychology in the modern business world, and how it can be used to build strong relationships with customers, rather than simply pushing products.

This is a must-listen for anyone looking for a deeper understanding of sales psychology and its impact on a sales career, and on hiring staff to grow your business.

JAMES MICHAEL
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sales-recruiter-smallbusiness-advisor
https://justifiedtalent.com
https://e3cultures.com.au
https://theshortlist.au
https://salesmanagersaustralia.com.au

Christie Grace is a specialist in RNA and lipid nanoparticles and was a project manager at the top plasmid company in the world manufacturing recombinant proteins such as monoclonal antibodies, CRISPR, SpCas9, gene editing, and IVT mRNA production.

For two years Christie has been raising the alarm over harms that can be caused by lipid nanoparticles and has concerns over cold chain management, vaccine production quality assurance/control and the medical community’s unwillingness to look at the scientific data.

This is a deep and specific conversation delving into the science of lipid nanoparticles which may become the next target for scientific investigation of vaccination injuries and death.

*Apologies for the host repeatedly slipping and calling LNPs ‘liquid nanoparticles’.

We discussed:

• Lipid nanoparticles (LNP)
• The structure of an LNP
• Mass manufacturing LNPs
• Zeta potential of LNPs leading to leakage into the vascular system and the heart
• Are lipid nanoparticles safe?
• The Ostwald effect on lipids
• How to cause clots and aneurysms
• Dying suddenly in the absence of metals means lipid growth
• Why harms were immediately obvious years ago
• Fibrin, protease reactions and photos of rapid clotting
• Claims from morticians of long, stringy clots
• Photos of branching clots in lungs
• Why clots are only associated with AstraZeneca and not Pfizer
• Excess of negatively charged mRNA resulting in clots
• CDC issues new warning advisory for clots
• Why adverse reactions are rare
• ‘Death batches’ and TGA (Aust) FOI releases showing fragments of junk mRNA
• How cold chain transport of mRNA vaccines works
• How to make a vaccine
• Protein misfolding in the lab and in the body
• What is the definition of ‘vaccine’?
• Genetic therapeutics
• How do our cells know when to stop producing spike protein?
• Finding spike protein around the body
• Gaslighting women over disruptions to their menstrual cycles
• Japanese FOI data on lipids concentrating in organs
• Cardiac myocytes that take up lipids
• How the vaccine rollout could have been done better
• Steel-manning the other side
• Extrapolating LNP damage into the future
• Linearised DNA (helix straightened) that could cause long term impacts
• Lean body composition associated with higher risk of inflammation response
• Distinguishing Long Covid from vaccine injury
• ‘The spawning pit of degradation’
• ‘The amygdala of the internet’
• Malfeasance and culture inside Big Pharma
• Silencing of scientists
• The Fauci emails
• Directed evolution and the Pfizer leaks
• Is Chinese CCP propaganda correct for once?
• Confirmation bias, self reflection and epistemological query
• Comparing the scientific honesty of both sides
• How does science progress if it won’t question itself?
• Hope for the future of medicine

CHRISTIE GRACE
https://twitter.com/_HeartofGrace_
https://christielauragrace.substack.com

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Lauren Dry is a specialist in nervous system and unconscious-driven behaviours. She joined Discernable to explore why so many people are ‘stuck’ post-pandemic and acting emotionally and unconsciously.

Serving as case study is the paradoxical treatment of Novak Djokovic by angry Australians, and the way humans descend into groupthink, social norms and reactionary grasps for ‘safety’.

Steered by media and opportunistic governments, populations swing from one ‘villain’ to another, with some ultimately finding themselves in the arms of ‘freedom’ movements that are just as manipulative and fear-driven.

Is there a way to break free and live aware of our unconscious triggers, motivations and vulnerabilities?

We discussed:

• The groupthink that condemned Novak Djokovic
• The Asch conformity experiments
• Creating social norms that contain no logic
• The man from Nunawading who can’t let go
• Allowing the ‘protector’ part of ourselves to take over
• Fight, Flight, Fawn or Freeze
• Physical somatic practices before, during and after stress
• Novak Djokovic made the lightning rod for all threats to our safety
• Dividing internal ‘self’ in order to survive
• Anger over dirty dishes
• Connecting in uncomfortable conversations
• Pixar’s Inside Out
• Allowing partial personalities to take over
• Media and politics needs you in a state of fear
• Red flag: lack of complexity
• The ‘freedom’ movement exploiting people’s fears
• Making self-awareness great again
• Most of the population is not conscious of their actions
• Exuding an atmosphere of safety
• Finding idols and role models
• Treat your triggers like you treat your children
• What is authenticity?
• The Liver King
• Is Jacinda Ardern authentic?
• Is Justin Trudeau authentic?
• Is Oprah authentic?
• How to understand Andrew Tate
• How to determine authenticity
• What’s the deal with Jordan Peterson?
• Female role models
• Teal Swan ‘the cult leader’
• Long dead heroes
• Finding an anchor for your soul
• Adopting a posture of surrender and humility

LAUREN DRY
https://www.instagram.com/lauren.dry.official

Emily Coltraine founded Voice for Victoria – a new media channel that grew to approximately 200,000 Victorian subscribers. Initially conceived as a mental health coping project for Emily, it quickly grew in popularity as many turned to ‘Voice’ for news and commentary that couldn’t be found on legacy or new media channels.

Voice for Victoria continues to publish news and educational pieces on Victoria, voting, Australian politics and political culture in general.

We discussed:

• The origins of Voice for Victoria
• Coping mechanisms
• Lying data
• Fear based campaigns
• NSW Premier not scared enough
• Trump not scared enough
• Risks for the immunocompromised
• The Victorian election result
• Greens party are ‘infants’
• Making people care about politics
• Ian Cook and the fight against corruption
• Authenticity and Fiona Patten (Sex Party, Reason Party)
• Liberals can’t even win their religious minority base
• John Howard is frozen in time
• Being recognised in public
• Taking viewer questions: recessions, mental health, work ethic, education reform, surveillance, memes, dating, future of politics.

VOICE FOR VICTORIA
https://www.instagram.com/voiceforvictoria
https://twitter.com/Voice4Victoria
https://www.facebook.com/voiceforvictoria
https://voiceforvictoria.com.au

As New Media takes off around the world, sometimes it actually scoops legacy media…and with only a fraction of the budget, staff, experience and resources of giant media conglomerates. 6 News is one of those New Media players with their news coverage being syndicated by Australia’s national broadcaster (the ABC) as well as commercial networks.

The founder of 6 News, Leonardo Puglisi, makes regular appearances on major shows such as The Drum. Despite being only 15 years old, he now leads a national news organisation staffed by young volunteer reporters across Australia, sometimes being the only news organisation to provide rolling coverage of breaking news, as was the case with the Dec 2022 shooting in Queensland where 2 police officers were killed.

We sat down with Leo to find out how 6 News came to be, how they achieve ‘unbiased’ coverage, and how to reach his generation through media.

LEONARDO PUGLISI
https://twitter.com/Leo_Puglisi6
https://twitter.com/6NewsAU
https://www.patreon.com/6newsau

This is a true tale of theft, drugs and a bakery. Jordan Dittloff made headlines in 2015 for stealing $277,993.58 from 47 clients of his travel agency Ace Travel in Victoria.

As an award winning travel agency and a community leader in regional Victoria, Jordan’s crimes rocked the Colac community. Many, including his 70 year old future mother in law, lost thousands of dollars saved up for their ‘trip of a lifetime’. Trading insolvent, Jordan effectively ran a travel ponzi scheme relying on future holiday bookings to pay for past holiday bookings.

Eventually the scheme collapsed and Jordan disappeared, sparking media attention. After 2 weeks he handed himself into police and was bailed pending a court hearing for his crimes.

At the same time, Jordan ran a second business: drug dealing in Melbourne, profits from which he used to fund his own drug habit. Whilst on bail, Jordan was arrested as part of Victoria Police drug sting operation in a Melbourne alleyway.

In the end the court sentenced Jordan to jail 3 years (20 months non-parole) as well as granting compensation orders for his victims to be repaid.

In prison Jordan completed a business degree and in the five years since release is completing a post-graduate law degree and has repaid ~$35,000 to victims. He has worked at the same bakery since release.

He now credits his time in prison as a catalyst for reform and is building a drug and alcohol free life of discipline and responsibility unlike his behaviour displayed before prison.

Other issues we discussed:

• What prison is really like
• Criminal justice reform
• How the different generations see criminal justice
• How governments respond to community feelings
• Why we must reject the progressive narrative ‘blame the system’ for crime
• Why we must not ban criminal record checks
• Practising radical honesty
• The political system self-selects for dishonesty
• The potential for an honest politician
• What is freedom? Do we understand it?
• Which media represents average people?
• Supporting the right to protest
• Removing enlightenment values from institutions renders democracies as tyrannies
• The future for humanity: Wall-E
• The death throes of the state
• Rising corporate power
• Friendly Jordies and Michael West Media
• Taking the pulse of the community
• Embracing fragmentation
• The AI revolution: ChatGPT

JORDAN DITTLOFF
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-dittloff
jdittloff@deakin.edu.au

For 20 years, Luke Donnellan was the Victorian Labor MP for the outer suburban electorate of Narre Warren. He served as the Minister for Roads and Road Safety and Minister for Ports (2014-2018) and then as the Minister for Child Protection and the Minister for Disability, Ageing and Carers (2018-2021).

Before the Nov 2022 state election, the Labor Party denied Luke preselection for his seat, and was thus pushed out of parliament altogether.

Luke joined Discernable for an open conversation about the lives of everyday Victorians. What do they care about? Why do they keep electing Labor governments?

We also delved into the ethics of protests, social justice, and the corruption tendencies of long term governments. As the Minister for the most vulnerable cohort of Victorians during Covid-19 (the elderly), we also explored his thinking on vaccine mandates, segregation and community safety.

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• We discussed:
• The grass roots instincts of Daniel Andrews
• Door knocking your electorate
• Pandering to minorities in the electorate
• Labor/Liberal comes in cycles
• Where the Liberal Party went wrong
• Door knocking is the key to success
• The future for both political parties: the outer suburbs
• Why the north and west of Melbourne have underdeveloped infrastructure
• Who Victorians voted for – the rise of minor parties
• The baseball bats for Daniel Andrews never came
• Everyday Australians don’t care about corruption
• The dismissal of Casey Council which is still in caretaker mode
• Regulatory capture and systemic ‘grey corruption’ in Victoria
• Stale governments become corrupt governments
• Renewal inside the Labor Party of Victoria
• Factional wars: Labor Socialist Left vs Labor Right
• Liberals are stuck in the Baby Boomer generation
• Australians have moved left
• The Victorian Socialists’ weird success in the election
• Greens taking over country electorate of Polwarth
• Labor Party surprised at the election result
• The internal mood toward Daniel Andrews
• How Luke was pushed out of parliament
• Driven by Social Justice
• Rugby as early intervention against crime
• Pacific Islanders: God and Rugby
• Child Protection: Foster Care, Kinship Care and interventions
• A billion dollars for wire rope barriers on highways
• Irrational objections from the Country Fire Authority
• In politics you write your own rules
• The Victoria crackdown on protests
• Chinese protests vs Melbourne protests
• Relative ethics: what the people want they get
• Are lockdowns morally good or bad?
• Are mandates morally good or bad?
• Daniel Andrews’ victory speech double speak
• The impending economic recession
• Why the left wing won’t do longform media
• Labor Party communications discipline

How do left-wing/progressive/woke people think? Is there a way for the right wing to speak to the left? Why do they misunderstand one another?

Rob McMullan joins us to discuss the psychological differences of those loosely defined as politically left and right wing. Ultimately, Rob’s hope is that the moderates on either side will find a way to communicate and cooperate.

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We discussed:

• What is ‘the collective good’?
• The left have no interest in cooperation
• Claims of ‘hate speech’
• Each side is blind to the other
• Left Wing Caretaking vs Right Wing Capitalising
• Case study: what is marriage?
• Fairy tale thinking on world politics
• How conservatives should talk to the left wing
• Interpersonal empathy does not scale
• A dysfunctional marriage between the left and the right
• Case study: would Dan Bilzerian care about a speech on moralism?
• Gina Rinehart calls out Netball Australia
• Conservatives in power are too comfortable
• How to speak to the left: emotional validation
• The lack of social consensus = pain for the left
• Differentiating the ‘woke left’ from the sensible left wing
• Freedom from the law of scarcity
• ‘Boomerservatives’
• The left has a greater verbal ability than conservatives
• Wokeism is the evolution of religion
• The Star Trek reality
• The life of a Twitter worker: caretaking beyond reason
• How conservatives should speak to the left
• Powerful conservatives have checked out
• The left will double down even when it ‘hits their hip pockets’
• Empathetic Thinking vs Systematic Thinking
• Daniel Andrews’ hypocrisy of excluding some Victorians
• The long arc of social technology created by the empathy brains
• The empathetic herd
• How women speak to one another
• ‘Herds vs packs’ and the differing strategies and moralities
• ‘Individuals vs the collective’ is incorrect
• Purity spirals
• We need a new aristocracy to balance the left
• The left should pay with ‘gratitude’
• Solutions for the future of Australia
• A new strategy: Separate and Co-operate
• Vaccine mandates driven by social and herd consensus

ROB MCMULLAN
https://twitter.com/TheMcMullan

Peter Fam is a human rights lawyer from Sydney, Australia. He believes that today’s society has become detached from the principles our species has upheld and respected for thousands of years.

We took a particularly deep dive into the origin of human rights, natural law and how that is evolving in today’s post-modern society that is reimagining the human rights landscape. It forced us to ask deep epistemological questions to trace the authority of self-determination and the origin of truth.

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We discussed:

• Fasting and food shortages
• Human rights law based in ancient Egyptian society
• Greco-Roman natural law
• Society’s attempt to enshrine natural law
• When governments create exceptions to human rights
• Can human rights ever be granted?
• Post modernism and the erosion of natural rights
• Vaccine mandates and human rights
• Australian peer pressure and its convict past
• Contact tracing through Woolworths supermarket loyalty cards
• Privacy as a lightning rod for human rights
• Schools requiring fingerprints to enter bathrooms
• Australians don’t value human rights
• Collapse in trust for medical system
• Parallel systems always arise under absolutism
• Lockdown attitudes are not sustainable
• The psychotic on both sides who are consumed by fear
• The crash that western societies must have
• The inevitable collapse of societies when human rights are trampled
• Blue Zones on earth
• Lifespan vs Healthspan
• Empires that succeed – the British Empire?
• The longest human society – the Indigenous Australia
• How should we measure human ‘success’?
• Objective truth and human values
• Self-determination a modern cross-cultural value, aka ‘Free will’
• What normal people want – comfort
• Useless international conventions on human rights
• When only 10% of population dissent, societies change
• The fires that bring renewal
• How to survive long cycles
• Is there a God?
• Doesn’t take long for bad times to change anymore
• Human rights cases in Australia
• Legal actions claiming false imprisonment in hotel quarantine
• The High Court ‘Australian Babies Case’
• Mehdi Ali, the lying refugee
• Why the left wing refuse to interview

PETER FAM
www.maatsmethod.com.au
https://t.me/thepeterfamtelegram
https://www.instagram.com/maatsmethod
https://www.facebook.com/maatsmethod
https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-fam-9b724315a